Audio CD IMAGE?

KingFish · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:04 am

Any reading I've done on the internet, states that you can only create an image, of a Data CD using disk Utility.

I know Toast can make an Image of an Audio CD, but the other end user, either needs Toast, A PC, or a 3rd party application for mounting Bin Cue files on a Mac.

My situation is this...

A client drove in 3 hours to pick up a Burned master with custom Gaps, ID's, encoded ISRC's and UPC code - and I need, now... to make a change.

She's got a Mac, no Toast, or 3rd party Apps and I'd like to author a New Master, and create an ISO or DMG of it... put it on her iDisk, and walk her through the simplicity of...

- Open Disk Utility
- Click "Burn"
- Select the Image I sent you
- Insert a CD

From extensive research... OS X Disk utility in Leopard will not do this, Command line dd utility commands, such as
dd if=/dev/disk1 of=file.iso bs=2048

Only work on CD's with filesystems - (Data CD's)

Any 3rd party apps out there I can buy, to create an image of an Audio CD in ISO or DMG format?

Iggy · **Joined:** Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:37 pm **Posts:** 816

im pretty sure disco will do what you need, although i dont have an audio cd to hand to test it, they offer a free demo though so you can give it a go and not loose anything

http://www.discoapp.com/

KingFish · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:34 pm

Hmm thanks Iggy - SEEMS as Disco SHOULD be perfect... however, inserting an Audio CD - leaves the "Image" Button / feature Greyed out, only becoming an option, inserting a Data CD

So likely back to my original Problem. I've e-mailled their support team though, to see if it's possible.

Thanks for the link !

Iggy · **Joined:** Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:37 pm **Posts:** 816

no problem, in that case, i suspect disco is only a GUI for disk utility with a few more features, it just looks a bit nicer

Michael Snow · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:52 pm

KingFish wrote:

Any 3rd party apps out there I can buy, to create an image of an Audio CD in ISO or DMG format?

This is quite user-unfriendly, but I'm pretty sure that you can create an ISO image of an audio CD using hdiutil.

man hdiutil will get you the details from the command line, or you can read them here:

http://developer.apple.com/documentatio ... til.1.html

KingFish · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:31 pm

Thanks Michael. Reading up on hdiutil - it seems as though this still only applies to filesystem disks...

Quote:

By default, if no filesystem is specified, the image will be
created with all four filesystems as a hybrid image. When
multiple filesystems are selected, the data area of the image
is shared between all filesystems, and only directory informa-
tion and volume meta-data are unique to each filesystem. This
means that creating a cross-platform ISO9660/HFS+ hybrid has a
minimal overhead when compared to a single filesystem image.

I will try the

Quote:

hdiutil makehybrid -o MusicBackup.iso Music -hfs -iso -joliet \
-hide-hfs 'Music/*.wma' -hide-joliet 'Music/{*.m4a,*.mp3}' \
-hide-iso 'Music/*.{wma,m4a}'

Options, and see if it produces a standard Audio CD output.

it also says

Quote:

(see also drutil(1) for making CD audio discs)

however, I don't see anywhere in the man drutil file, about creating an Image from Audio CD's

I'm not very Command Line Savvy - but really want to spend some time learning

Michael Snow · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:03 pm

I just created a .dmg image of an audio CD using Disk Utility. When I mount the image in Finder, it shows a bunch of .aiff files.

In Disk Utility, click File > New > Disk Image from Folder (or Cmd-Shift-N) and select the CD volume in the left pane of the Finder window that pops up, then click the Image button at bottom right. Select read/write as the Image Format.

Does this help?

KingFish · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:06 pm

Hey Michael... I did that earlier today as well

The end result is a "Data CD" with Aiff's on it - not an Audio CD, with my custom Cue ID's and ISRC information, that can play in My Car, and open iTunes when inserted, showing up as "Audio CD"

The CD created has a Filesystem.

Michael Snow · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:14 pm

If that is all you can get out of it, I cannot imagine doing any better with any of the OS X command line utilities. The GUI Disk Utility app is a front-end for several command line apps, diskutility and hdiutil among them. There is really nothing special about the GUI. In fact, it does not provide access to all of the command line functionality.

I'm afraid that you will need something like Toast. Unfortunately, that is outside my area of expertise. I used Toast on Panther and Tiger, and hate it (and all other Roxio apps) with a passion.

KingFish · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:20 pm

Yeah, I'm with you - and been at "This" in a few forums, and with a few friends - the end result for me, needs to be to have someone, without toast - just a bare bones Mac, download the Image, burn it to a CD and take it to Manufacturing, for her Album pressing.

I've never tried to "Digitally deliver" an audio Master before, I'm just a little surprised to find it, so impossible - I've found many people looking to be able to do the same thing, for many years - it seems that the "Lack Of Filesystem" of an Audio CD - can't be Imaged into an ISO or DMG

Thanks for all your help, and input - I'll keep researching and tinkering - it's a bit of a mission for me now.